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Apollo North
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:53:26 -
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I was wondering what methods most players use to place a value on a corp, in order to find a valuation for stakeholders to invest.
Thanks for any suggestions or ideas. |
Apollo North
HyperTech Exports and Logistics
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Posted - 2015.01.02 22:41:26 -
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Well let me clarify a bit. I'm not looking to hand out shares in the corp, because that system needs a revamp. But instead I'm trying to determine what the price would be for a specific % of dividends. As an example, 500m for 10% dividend monthly, that sort of thing.
Just trying to find a solid way to place investment value on the corp |
Apollo North
HyperTech Exports and Logistics
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Posted - 2015.01.03 00:20:39 -
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Well like I said I wouldn't be using the shares function. Current Corp holdings are at $750m in capital and materials. In December I made a 25% ROI but the lack of capital needed to expand is bottle necking my turnover. I estimate roughly 30% return moving forward until the business can expand. |
Apollo North
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Posted - 2015.01.03 01:52:52 -
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Koniforous wrote:Apollo North wrote:Well like I said I wouldn't be using the shares function. Current Corp holdings are at $750m in capital and materials. In December I made a 25% ROI but the lack of capital needed to expand is bottle necking my turnover. I estimate roughly 30% return moving forward until the business can expand. I hate it when people use the dollar symbol ($) when talking about isk. Either say isk, or use the ¦¦ (Uses as a currency symbol)Have you given thought to taking out a small uncollateralized loan at about 10-15% interest every 30days with an investor that trusts you? This would be the easiest first step...
Yes I have thought about that, that's why I'm trying to find a reasonable isk/% ratio for the interest. But I was also looking at providing continual dividends with a lower interest rate so I don't spend a lot of my capital in repaying a loan up front. |
Apollo North
HyperTech Exports and Logistics
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:28:04 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Apollo North wrote:the lack of capital needed to expand is bottle necking my turnover. If you had the isk to expand, what would you spend it on?
i would need more capital to be able to have a lower margin. ive been acquiring my materials solo, but i have two trader toons to play the market, but not enough capital to make a difference. this isnt a trader corp though. if i can acquire materials without having to play the market and find the lowest price source, i'll do that 8 days a week. so an investment would mean that the isk received would go to two areas. first, more capital to acquire the products needed. second, to work and build a network that allows me to acquire product at a decent cost. i know that building a network isnt an overnight process. so goal 1 is way more important. like i said earlier, the past month, we earned 25% ROI. lack of capital and few roadblocks that have now been resolved, were the reasons for that "minimal" return. at this point, my acquisition cost isnt as low as it should be, and more capital to corner my tiny market would change 25% to 30-40% or more.
I'll gladly share the business plan with someone that is serious about investing. i know that its probably not a new idea. nothing in eve is at this point. however, i own my own business, and this post was meant to find a way to value this corp, because a RL business is a different story altogether. |
Apollo North
HyperTech Exports and Logistics
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Posted - 2015.01.03 09:55:37 -
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Cista2 wrote:Apollo North wrote:I this post was meant to find a way to value this corp, because a RL business is a different story altogether. You are not speaking the language that investors here are used to hearing. Nobody understands why you need your corp "valued" and what RL has to do with it. Be certain to answer all questions precisely. Offer (some of) your api information to someone that is interested in investing.
im not going to share any info on how my corp makes isk, with someone that is just asking questions. a RL understanding of business practices, should tell you that things like acquisition cost, product turnover and overhead do actually mean something. so eve investors who don't understand those concepts, i will gladly turn down, yet be grateful that they showed interest. i didnt start this thread to find investors. i started it to see how values were placed on loans or investments. i see so many loans out there worth billions, with only a 15-20% interest rate but i have no idea how that corp, whatever it is, was valued at that price.
that was all i was asking. |
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